Talk:Item Definition

I've updatet the Object-Flags, and added the tool I created to calculate them. Would be nice if anyone could test for some new! ;) --Aschratt 14:38, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

Disposing and Adaption

This article should perhaps be rewritten or at least disposed and adapted for IV. For example see 2dfx, AMAT, MLO, TREE or TANM --Aschratt 12:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with possibly making a IV only definition page due to the IV ide running in a different structure order to the current layout --Gforce 01:56 22 July 2009

Well I don't exactly know how far the IV format does differ from the current one, but I guess the lines do only got a different format - I suggest creating articles for each section and then write the IV format there. Just like we did for the IPL sections. --Aschratt - oO 11:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Article rewriting steps and timeline

• Writing articles for sections
  • OBJS – Update --Aschratt - oO 12:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
  • TOBJ – Update --Aschratt - oO 13:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
  • ANIM – Write this article. GTA IV format missing.
  • PEDS – IV format missing
  • WEAP – finished. --Aschratt - oO 09:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
  • CARS – IV format missing, perhaps some more detailed information about limitations and stuff...
  • HIER – Apparently used to build up hierarchies for objects (?). Format appears like this:
    

    ParentID, modelName, textureName, string (gxtKey?), float

    ParentID, modelName, textureName

  • 2DFX – Incomplete?
  • PATH_(IDE_Section)
  • TREE
  • TANM
  • MLO
  • AMAT
• This article
  • 1. ! Confirm 'description' and 'version' of the sections
  • 2. Add description for TREE, MLO and AMAT
  • 3. ! Confirm 'description' and 'version' of the flags
  • 4. Find out redirects to now removed article sections (e.g. IDE#OBJS) – update or delete.
• Article Map System
  Write an article descriping the interaction of the various files like IDE, IPL, object.dat their sections and so on, in detail.

Can anyone please take a few minutes and to finish the confirmation points? If each point is confirmed remove the rewrite template from the article. – Thank you! --Aschratt - oO 11:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

(IV) procobj.ide

I do not belive, that there is any difference between the formats inside the procobj.ide and any other IDE for GTA IV - also I do not see a difference written in here (instead of the WDD link is set to "null", which does not change the format itself). So is there any reason to keep the Item_Definition#Procobj.ide section? --Aschratt - oO 09:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Removed for now... if anyone wants it back, than take a look to the previous revisions and copy it from there. --Aschratt - oO 11:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

IDE Flags

Would it be better to place the object flags in a template? If there's any change to the table, you won't have to find and edit each page, just only the template.--Spaceeinstein 10:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Good idea: feel free to use: {{Object-Flags}} --Aschratt - oO 11:57, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Flags are used to specify the behaviour of objects. They are signed 32-bit integer values where each bit describes a boolean value of an special aspect.

Flag	Supported games	Binary	Description
-1	–	1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111	Enables all flags.[a] Never used by default.
1		0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001	Wet effect (objects appear darker).
2		0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0010	Do not fade the object when it is being loaded into or out of view.
4		0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100	Allow transparencies of other objects to be visible through this object.
8		0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1000	Alpha transparency 2
16		0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000	Opposite to flag 2
32		0000 0000 0000 0000 0010 0000	Indicates an object to be used inside an interior.
64		0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000	Disables the shadow mesh to project a shadow; allow transparencies of other objects, shadows, and lights to be visible through this object.
128		0000 0000 0000 0000 1000 0000	Object surface will not be culled.
256		0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000	Disables draw distance (Only used for LOD objects with an LOD value greater than 299).
512		0000 0000 0000 0010 0000 0000	Object is breakable (like glass – additional parameters defined inside the object.dat file, otherwise there is no effect).
1024		0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000	Similar to flag 512: object first cracks on a strong collision, then it breaks (does also require object.dat registration).
2048		0000 0000 0000 1000 0000 0000	Indicates an object as an garage door (for more information see GRGE – requires object.dat registration).
4096		0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 0000	Indicates a multi mesh object (Object switches from mesh 2 to mesh 1 after collision – requires object.dat registration).
16384		0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000	Indicates a vegetation object (Object moves in wind).
32768		0000 0000 1000 0000 0000 0000	Uses object brightness from the current weather definition (See timecyc.dat – PoleShd).
65536		0000 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000	Object explodes after getting hit (requires object.dat registration).
131072		0000 0010 0000 0000 0000 0000	Unknown – apparently some flag for the Script.
262144		0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000	Unknown – only used 1 time in San Andreas.
1048576		0000 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000	Object will switch from mesh 2 to mesh 1 after getting sprayed by the player (graffity flag).
2097152		0001 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000	Disables backface culling – as an result the texture will be drawed on both sides of the model (Always enabled for GTA III and Vice City)
4194304		0010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000	Unknown – apparently related into physics.
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Upper/lower case identifiers

Should all references to identifiers be changed to lower case or remain upper case?--Spaceeinstein (talk) 22:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)